Re: [gaia] What if all phones were always on the Internet?

Hi all,

I think there are some very interesting options for what can be done with
amateur radio.  I am a fan of David Rowe's work on codec2 which is a very
low-bitrate codec designed for digital voice over HF frequencies.  None of
the alternative solutions though have the ubiquitous reach of the mobile
phone itself, unless, as Jon suggests, you start including these radios in
mobile handset design.  A more ambitious prospect.

@Phil Exactly! People would go bananas if you completely cut off their
Internet once they reached their cap.

Cheers... Steve

On 26 November 2015 at 11:47, Jon Crowcroft <jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk>
wrote:

> agree - e.g. #2:
>
> for some uk iot deployments (e.g. smart meter) that use your home
> broadband to get data up to a cloud service, some vendors ship a cellular
> dongle to add to your home router to provide resilience in the event that
> your dsl/cable modem line break, so you still get service (typically, a low
> rate edge/gprs device) - mcuh like the whispernet kindle use, it seems like
> its usage is low enough to just get bundled in with the contract for the
> iot ecosystem
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Or the Microsoft SPOT watch (also FM).
>>
>>
>> https://gigaom.com/2013/09/03/what-microsoft-got-right-with-its-smartwatch-nearly-a-decade-ago-more-than-you-think/
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if we'll see devices with prepaid connectivity
>> (i.e., paid by the hardware device vendor) - after all, the Amazon Kindle
>> has been doing this for years to deliver books.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Jon Crowcroft <
>> jon.crowcroft@cl.cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> sort of the equiv of all phones in japan ship with FM radio so they can
>>> receive quake warnings, only more general - nice!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Steve Song <stevesong@nsrc.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Following on some of the previous discussion about the non-linear
>>>> relationship between Internet speed and value to the consumer; and
>>>> reflecting on some of the discussions on zero-rating at the IGF; and
>>>> thinking further about the PAYG model that enabled the dramatic growth of
>>>> mobile telephony in emerging markets, I came to the conclusion that a
>>>> low-bitrate, always-on Internet for all mobile phones would benefit
>>>> everyone.
>>>>
>>>> https://manypossibilities.net/2015/11/zero-rating-a-modest-proposal/
>>>>
>>>> Would love to have the idea critiqued (gently).
>>>>
>>>> Thanks... Steve Song
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