Re: [Gen-art] Last Call review of draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06

Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net> Wed, 19 August 2015 21:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Last Call review of draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06
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Tom: thank you for extensive review and, from my perspective, very valid comments.

Deepak: thank you for accommodating Tom’s concerns.

I have decided to ballot no-obj; please continue the discussion to determine if something additional is needed for the restart question.

Jari

On 16 Aug 2015, at 18:15, Tom Taylor <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com> wrote:

> For an example, look at <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-perrault-behave-natv2-mib/?include_text=1>. Search on the text "DiscontinuityTime". You will find several instances, relating to the different tables. A discontinuity can happen not just because of restarts, but also when a new object is configured.
> 
> Tom
> 
> On 16/08/2015 1:47 AM, Deepak Kumar (dekumar) wrote:
>> Hi Tom,
>> 
>> Thanks for detailed review.
>> I have taken care of all comments except need guidance on below comment.
>> 
>> 4) Has any thought been given to including an indication of when the
>> counters were last reset (e.g, due to restart)?
>> 
>> Please provide more details on scenario of restart.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Deepak
>> 
>> On 8/14/15, 6:40 PM, "Tom Taylor" <tom.taylor.stds@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>>> 
>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>>> 
>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>>> you may receive. Sorry for the late review, but there was a pile of
>>> reading to do in preparation. I admit I did not read the whole 1800
>>> pages of 802.1Q.
>>> 
>>> Tom Taylor
>>> 
>>> Document: draft-ietf-trill-oam-mib-06
>>> Reviewer: Tom Taylor
>>> Review Date:        2015-08-14
>>> IETF LC End Date:   2015-08-13
>>> IESG Telechat date: 2015-08-20
>>> 
>>> Summary: Not quite ready. Minor issues and editorials/nits.
>>> 
>>> Major issues:
>>> 
>>> Minor issues:
>>> 
>>> 1) Section 5.2 states that IEEE8021ServiceSelectorType has two values.
>>> In fact, 801-1Q-2014 enumerates more than that. I'd suggest a slight
>>> change in wording to reflect this:
>>> 
>>> OLD
>>> 
>>> IEEE8021-TC-MIB defines IEEE8021ServiceSelectorType with two values:
>>> 
>>> - 1 representing a vlanId, and
>>> 
>>> - 2 representing a 24 bit isid.
>>> 
>>> NEW
>>> 
>>> The IEEE8021-TC-MIB definition of IEEE8021ServiceSelectorType includes
>>> the two values:
>>> 
>>> - 1 representing a vlanId, and
>>> 
>>> - 2 representing a 24 bit isid.
>>> 
>>> 2) Section 6.2 indicates that TRILL OAM has no support for Link Trace
>>> Message/Reply. Perhaps text could be added to say why this is so (i.e.,
>>> that Path Trace has been substituted, as indicated in Sec. 10 of RFC
>>> 7455, and has been supplemented by Multi-destination Tree Verification
>>> Message/Reply).
>>> 
>>> 3) "Reference Overview" in the MIB module header indicates that the
>>> TRILL MIB module refers to the original CFM document, IEEE 802.1ag-2007,
>>> instead of IEEE 802.1-Q-2014. Why the older starting point?
>>> 
>>> 4) Has any thought been given to including an indication of when the
>>> counters were last reset (e.g, due to restart)?
>>> 
>>> 5) description of trillOamMepTxPtmStatus refers to the MEP Initiator
>>> State Machine. Reference should include pointer to the description of
>>> this state machine. Where is it defined? -- not in RFC 7455. Similar
>>> comment regarding the description of trillOamMepTxMtvmStatus.
>>> 
>>> 6) Description of trillOamMepTxPtmMessages: there is no indication in
>>> RFC 7455 of how this limit is used. More text is needed here. Does
>>> number of hops affect the count of transmitted messages against this
>>> limit? Similar comment regarding the description of
>>> trillOamMepTxMtvmMessages.
>>> 
>>> 7) Surely this document has normative dependencies on 802.1Q and the
>>> LLDP-MIB, for which no reference is given, BTW.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nits/editorial comments:
>>> 
>>> 1) Under "Abbreviations" in the MIB module header, definition of SNMP
>>> Agent, need to spell out NE. Similarly, spell out EMS and NMS in the
>>> next definition.
>>> 
>>> 2) Description of trillOamMepTable: s/rowsare/rows are/
>>> 
>>> 3) in the descriptions of trillOamMepPtrFlag and
>>> trillOamMepPtrErrorCode, incorrect section numbers for RFC 7455 are
>>> given in the references. Should be 8.4.3?
>>> 
>>> 4) Description of trillOamMepPtrIngress: s/PTM/PTR/. Similar comment for
>>> trillOamMepPtrEgress.
>>> 
>>> 5) Syntax error for trillOamMepPtrIngressPortIdSubtype: syntax should be
>>> LldpPortIdSubtype. Descriptions of trillOamMepPtrIngressPortIdSubtype
>>> and trillOamMepPtrIngressPortId should be interchanged. Similar comments
>>> for trillOamMepPtrEgressPortIdSubtype and trillOamMepPtrEgressPortId.
>>> Note that syntax is also stated in the Entry definition and has to be
>>> fixed there, too.
>>> 
>>> 6) Same problem as 5) for the corresponding trillOamMtvrTable objects.
>>> 
>>> 7) Security Considerations, third para, first-to-second lines:
>>> s/MAC-ACCESS/MAX-ACCESS/
>> 
>> 
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