Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rfc6046-bis-05
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 24 January 2012 17:10 UTC
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Cc: gen-art@ietf.org, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty@emc.com>, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, Brian Trammell <trammell@tik.ee.ethz.ch>
Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-ietf-mile-rfc6046-bis-05
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On 1/24/12 9:59 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: > On 24/01/2012 16:45, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 1/24/12 2:25 AM, Brian Trammell wrote: >>> Hi, Alexey, >>> >>> So far only one voice on the WG list, stating no need for CN-ID. >>> However, on thinking about it a bit further, if you happen to have an >>> older PKI built out, and you're still using it, you've probably got a >>> large investment in it, and it probably makes sense to allow you to >>> use it for RID too... >>> >>> So, I'd suggest the following language to grudgingly allow such a thing: >>> >>> The use of CN-ID identifiers in certificates identifying RID systems >>> is NOT RECOMMENDED, and CN-ID identifiers MUST be ignored by PKI >>> implementations which can use DNS-ID identifiers. However, CN-ID >>> identifiers MAY be used when the RID consortium to which the system >>> belongs uses an older, existing PKI implementation. >> Brian, first of all, thanks for working with us on this topic. As you >> can see from the length of RFC 6125 (which didn't start out that big!), >> there's more complexity here than meets the eye. >> >> I think the mix of "NOT RECOMMENDED, MUST be ignored by some, but MAY be >> used by others" might be a bit confusing to those who implement and >> deploy RID. Also, RFC 6125 makes a distinction between cert generation >> and cert checking, which gets obscured by the word "use". Thus I might >> make the following suggestion: >> >> The inclusion of Common Names (CN-IDs) in certificates identifying >> RID systems is NOT RECOMMENDED. A PKI implementation that >> understands DNS-IDs SHOULD ignore CN-IDs when checking server >> certificates. > I thought RFC 6125 has a rule saying that CN-IDs are ignored in presence > of DNS-IDs? I would just rather reference RFC 6125, or at least be clear > that this is defined there (using "as specified in RFC 6125"). Yes, so you're right: just reference the rules from RFC 6125. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-ietf-… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… kathleen.moriarty
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Brian Trammell
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART last call review of draft-i… Alexey Melnikov