Re: [Gen-art] Review: draft-bbf-bbf-urn-02

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 27 October 2016 23:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Review: draft-bbf-bbf-urn-02
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Thanks Barbarra.

With regard to the assignment process text, what you have would work.  I 
would suggest dropping the text about membership and simply talking 
about going through the BBF document creation and approval process.

Yours,
Joel

On 10/27/16 12:53 PM, STARK, BARBARA H wrote:
> Hi Joel,
>
>> Major issues:
>>      RFC 3406 states that the namespace considerations section should indicate
>> why a new namespace is needed.  While this is pretty obvious, the text does
>> not actually say anything in that section to explain it.
>>      In particular, I would expect that section to explain why 3 NIDs are needed
>> rather than just 1.
>
> Thanks for the comments. I propose adding the following text at the end of Namespace Considerations (the mention of the name change is part of a proposal to resolve a separate comment asking how "dslforum-org" relates to BBF):
>    Three NIDs are defined. The "broadband-forum-org" and "dslforum-org"
>    (Broadband Forum changed its name from DSL Forum in 2008) NIDs have
>    been used for many years by BBF without formal registration. As they are
>    referenced by multiple BBF specifications currently in common use, BBF is
>    requesting to formalize them. The new "bbf" NID will be used for new work efforts.
>
>> Minor issues:
>>      The template in RFC 3406 indicates the the section in each NID on the
>> Process of identifier assignment should "detail the mechanism and or
>> authorities for assigning URNs to resources."  The draft simply says that the
>> BBF will provide procedures.  Do those procedures exist?  If not, there seems
>> to be a minor problem.  If they do exist, it would seem sensible to include a
>> pointer to the place where the BBF publicly documents those procedures, so
>> that people using this information who might want to register something can
>> understand what the rules and expectations are. (I realize that the RFC 6289
>> example this is based on did not include such a pointer, which is why I am
>> making this a minor comment instead of a major one.)
>
> I'm struggling a bit with this one in trying to figure out what's the best thing to say here. At this point in time, URN assignments only happen through creation of a BBF document that identifies the URN. BBF processes for document creation are published on the members-only part of the website, and only BBF members can participate in creating a BBF document. There is currently no plan to allow non-members to register URNs. There is also no plan to allow BBF members to register URNs for their own use (creating a BBF document requires interest and participation from at least 3 different companies). Would it be appropriate to say "BBF procedures for URN assignment are noted at [BBF-RESOURCES] <http://www.broadband-forum.org/assignments>" and on that page explain that URN assignment requires BBF membership and going through the BBF project and document processes?
>
> Thanks again,
> Barbara
>