Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12

"Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" <kwiereng@cisco.com> Fri, 11 December 2015 16:16 UTC

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From: "Klaas Wierenga (kwiereng)" <kwiereng@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART LC review of draft-ietf-abfab-aaa-saml-12
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> On 10 Dec 2015, at 14:02, Scott Bradner <sob@sobco.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>> 
>>>> 2.In general I was wondering why this is an Informational document. It
>>>> defines procedures and has normative language.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> That sounds like kind of an unfortunate bug. For some reason, it changed
>>> from Standards Track to Informational between versions -00 and -01.
>>> However, we want it standards-track with a normative downreference to
>>> radsec. Can it be done at this moment or does it require a more complex
>>> process?
>> 
>> Hmm. The shepherd write-up says informational is correct. If the WG
>> chairs want to, we can re-spin the IETF LC. But this has been so
>> long in the process and has slowly so I'd prefer to not do that
>> unless someone really cares, and it makes a difference.
>> 
>> For now, I've kept this on the Dec17 IESG telechat as informational
>> but if needed we can push it into the new year.
>> 
> 
> fwiw - 2026 requeres a new LC if there is to be a increase in the status (info to studs track) 

Yes, that is understood. I (document shepherd) actually consulted RFC2026 on this because I was in doubt, and since there is mentioning of "Specifications that have been prepared outside of the Internet
 community” and part of this spec is OASIS’ domain, I found informational defensible. As it turns out the change to informational was accidental. I’ll discuss with the authors.

Klaas