Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-lsr-ospf-l2bundles-06
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Ketan,

I've trimmed the conversation down to just the relevant points.

On 9/21/22 10:07 AM, Ketan Talaulikar wrote:

> KT> This ID-nits warning is perhaps simply because the normative 
> reference is not from an IETF publication and so perhaps the tool is not 
> able to determine if that publication is "standards" or informational. 
> As far as the guidance from draft-kucherawy, I'll wait for our AD and 
> IESG to share their views - we'll do as indicated by the IESG.

OK

> KT> If I understand your point, and I am paraphrasing, the idea is that 
> we add this document as reference on the OSPFv2/v3 code point registry 
> and in this document's IANA section we add guidelines for IANA to look 
> for whether the allocation request has specified the applicability to 
> the L2 Bundle Member Sub-TLV. So that acts as a checkpoint before future 
> allocations out of this registry. Is that correct?

Yes

> So this is half-step 
> between the current state of the document and the suggested new document 
> that changes the registry organization.

I guess. If this hypothetical new document straightens things out 
better, then this would simply cover anything that happens until that 
new document is adopted, or in case that never happens.

Alternately, you could hold this document until that other one is ready.

>     One last thought: have you considered whether potential future updates
>     to the definitions to currently defined sub-TLVs could ever change
>     their
>     applicability? 
> 
> 
> KT> That would be very remote/unlikely IMO.
> 
>     I suspect any time a change is made to the registry that
>     adds/replaces a reference to a document defining a sub-TLV, the newly
>     referenced document will need to "indicate applicability".
> 
> KT> Sure and this should be taken care of by the IANA checks when the 
> new document reference is updated in registry.

Yes.

	Thanks,
	Paul