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Re: [Gen-art] [Anima] Gen-art LC Review of? draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Sat, 19 May 2018 02:32 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [Anima] Gen-art LC Review of? draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13
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Definitely, just works better for me when not having to multi-thread,
and still trying to finalize feedback for Joel Halperns excellent feedback

Cheers
    Toerless

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 01:08:55PM -0400, Alissa Cooper wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I was wondering if any response to Elwyn???s review besides Brian???s is forthcoming and if so when the authors or shepherd expect to send it.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alissa
> 
> > On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry, trying to get through backlog. Took longer than expected...
> > 
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:04:53AM +0100, Elwyn Davies wrote:
> >> Hi.
> >> It has been about 6 weeks since responses to the review were postponed till after IETF 101.... any thoughts yet?
> >> Regards,Elwyn
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from Samsung tablet.
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Elwyn Davies <elwynd@dial.pipex.com> Date: 02/03/2018  12:04  (GMT+00:00) To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, gen-art@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane.all@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-art LC Review of
> >>   draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13 
> >> Just taking up one point for the time being....  
> >> Even if the reference model is informational, I was relying on RFC 8067, s1, para 3:
> >>    Section 2 of [RFC3967] lists some conditions under which downrefs may
> >>    make sense.  In addition to those, it has become common for working
> >>    groups to produce foundational documents (which contain important
> >>    information such as terminology definitions and architectural design
> >>    and considerations) at Informational status, and those documents are
> >>    often needed as normative references in the Standards Track protocol
> >>    documents that follow. 
> >> I would say that sombody implementing ACP really needs to have read and understood the reference model and so I would argue:1. That it needs to be normative,and2. The downref is sanctioned by the language in RFC 8067. 
> >> I am on holiday for a week and others are fighting the draft deadline so perhaps we can postpone discussion of the other points until the draft panic has subsided.
> >> Cheers,Elwyn
> >> Sent from Samsung tablet.
> > 
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