Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 10 August 2018 20:24 UTC

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To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>, "Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-anima-reference-model-06
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(CCs trimmed, since I doubt that ietf@ietf.org cares to see the
details...)

Just on a couple of points:

>>> chair hat on:
>>> There can not be a draft covering this yet, because the current
>>> ANIMA charter didn't allow us to do this. We've got individual drafts
>>> lined up for this topic, we just need to get through the rechartering,
>>> we have started the discuss with our AD and wanted to then bring this to
>>> the WG.
>> <jmh>How can this informational documents say "ASA must ..." if there is no
>> definition of what they must do.  If the WG has not addressed this topic,
>> then reword this.  Maybe "It is expected that wide deployment in the future
>> will need ..." </jmh>
> 
> I think 6.1 is just missing the (*).

I hadn't thought of draft-carpenter-anima-asa-guidelines ever
going to the standards track. In any case we'd need a lot more
implementation experience before we could consider that. So IMHO
we should simply wordsmith section 6.2 to avoid any hint of a
normative requirement.

Similarly:

>     Personal opinion: Section 8 on coordination is too hypothetical to be
>     useful to a reader of this document.  I think it is better removed.

It's definitely a future work item, but as a minimum I think we
should state the problem, so I would suggest editing it down
rather than deleting it.

   Brian