Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-grow-no-more-unallocated-slash8s-03.txt

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Wed, 05 October 2011 19:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-grow-no-more-unallocated-slash8s-03.txt
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Hi Leo,

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda@icann.org> wrote:

> Hi Alexey,****
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> Thanks for reviewing the document. ****
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> I suppose I could add back the reference I previously had to RFC 3871 and
> maybe a new one to RFC 1208 to resolve this one. They defined them like
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>       A "Bogon" (plural: "bogons") is a packet with an IP source address**
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>       in an address block not yet allocated by IANA or the Regional****
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>       Internet Registries (ARIN, RIPE, APNIC...) as well as all****
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>       addresses reserved for private or special use by RFCs.  See****
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>       [RFC3330] and [RFC1918].****
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> Martian: Humorous term applied to packets that turn up unexpectedly****
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>    on the wrong network because of bogus routing entries.  Also used as***
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>    a name for a packet which has an altogether bogus (non-registered or***
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>    ill-formed) Internet address.****
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> So, bogons are generally considered a sub-set of Martians, yes.
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Ok, good.

Yes, I think expanding definitions would improve readability.

Leo****
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> *From:* lunohod.baikonur@googlemail.com [mailto:
> lunohod.baikonur@googlemail.com] *On Behalf Of *Alexey Melnikov
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 05, 2011 11:26 AM
> *To:* Leo Vegoda
> *Cc:* christopher.morrow@gmail.com; General Area Review Team; The IESG
> *Subject:* Gen-Art review of
> draft-ietf-grow-no-more-unallocated-slash8s-03.txt****
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> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART)****
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> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments****
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> Document:  draft-ietf-grow-no-more-unallocated-slash8s-03****
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> Reviewer: Alexey Melnikov****
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> Review Date: 2011-10-05****
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> IETF LC End Date: 2011-10-12****
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> IESG Telechat date:****
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> Summary: The document is ready for publication as a BCP.****
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> Nit: I did find the difference between "bogons" and "martians" to be a bit
> confusing: every "bogon" is a "martian", right?****
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