Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-concepts-uses-04.txt
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 10 April 2012 13:09 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-concepts-uses-04.txt
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On 04/04/2012 18:45, Bob Briscoe wrote: > Alexey, Hi Bob, > Thanks for your review - we are all indebted to people like you who > commit to review stuff that you don't necessarily have an interest in. > > > We're concerned if you think the doc isn't understandable without > reading the I-D refs. This is meant to be the entry-point to the set > of ConEx documentation, so we intended it to be understandable without > knowing how ConEx works (beyond the high level description in the > introduction). "Understandable" here means sufficient to satisfy the > stated purpose of the doc, which is to motivate ConEx (not to > understand how it works). Maybe I wasn't very clear: the document was understandable without checking out the references. > > The refs are intended to be used the other way round - having read > this, you should be motivated to go and read more, so it provides > pointers to what's available. > > Are you sure the need to read the refs is not a symptom of your > (natural) curiosity to know how ConEx works? Is it really necessary to > know the details of how ConEx works to understand the motivation for > building it? > > The second paragraph sets out the purpose of the doc: > " > This document provides the entry point to the set of documentation > about the Congestion Exposure (ConEx) protocol. It focuses on the > motivation for including a ConEx marking at the IP layer. (A > companion document, [I-D.ietf-conex-abstract-mech], focuses on the > mechanics of the protocol.) > " I've just rechecked references to drafts and I can see them being Informative. So thank you for your response and your document is getting "all clear" from me. Thank you, Alexey > Bob > > At 18:09 04/04/2012, Alexey Melnikov wrote: >> I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) >> reviewer for this draft. For background on Gen-ART, please see the >> FAQ at <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq> >> >> Please resolve these comments along with any other comments you may >> receive. >> >> Document: draft-ietf-conex-concepts-uses-04.txt >> Reviewer: Alexey Melnikov >> Review Date: 2012-04-04 >> IETF LC End Date: 2012-04-12 >> IESG Review: 2012-04-12 >> >> Summary: The document is nearly ready for publication as an >> Informational RFC (see one issue below) >> >> >> Major issues: none >> >> Minor issues: >> >> This might be pedantic, but I think some of your Informational >> references are actually Normative, because they are needed to >> understand the document. See "IESG Statement: Normative and >> Informative References" for more details >> <http://www.ietf.org/iesg/statement/normative-informative.html>. >> >> This almost doesn't matter for an Informational document, however if >> any of 5 drafts becomes Normative, publication of this document as an >> RFC will be delayed. Still, this might be better than just getting it >> published with "work in progress" references. >> >> But otherwise this is a well written document and I enjoyed reading it. >> >> >> Nits/editorial comments: none
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-conc… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-… Alexey Melnikov
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-conex-conc… Alexey Melnikov