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Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-11

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Tue, 30 January 2018 15:54 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Cc: Dan Romascanu <dromasca@gmail.com>, mtgvenue@ietf.org, gen-art@ietf.org, ietf@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process.all@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-11
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> On Jan 29, 2018, at 1:12 PM, Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 8. Section 4:
>> 
>> 'It is anticipated that
>>   those roles will evolve.  The IASA is responsible for keeping the
>>   community informed in this regard, and MAY do so without updating
>>   this memo.'
>> 
>> I would be a little concerned if some of the key roles would change without
>> this document being updated. I understand the need to be flexible, but we need
>> to put some limits. Maybe at least emphasize the need to inform the community
>> by a MUST. For example:
>> 
>> 'It is anticipated that
>>   those roles will evolve.  The IASA MUST keep the
>>   community informed in this regard, and MAY do so without updating
>>   this memo.'
> 
> I don't think the MUST significantly changes the meaning, so I'm ambivalent about the change. Since this text was put in to address a comment in AD Evaluation, I'm inclined to hear from Alissa.

Perhaps the concern could be addressed by saying “without first updating this memo”? The point I raised is that this document shouldn’t gate the ability for the roles to change, but certainly if they do change the document should be updated (or obsoleted by a new document) to match the reality.

Thanks,
Alissa

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