Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-housley-hkdf-oids-01

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Mon, 08 April 2019 15:26 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Russ Housley <housley@vigilsec.com>, Francesca Palombini <francesca.palombini@ericsson.com>
CC: IETF Gen-ART <gen-art@ietf.org>, "draft-housley-hkdf-oids.all@ietf.org" <draft-housley-hkdf-oids.all@ietf.org>, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
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Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2019 15:26:06 +0000
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>    HKDF is gaining in popularity.  The only reason for standards track over informational is to avoid a future issue with a downward reference.
  
Yes it is, thanks to TLS 1.3's adoption of it.  I think the "only" reason is actually "an excellent reason" for, well, the reason given.