Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel-21

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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
CC: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "gen-art@ietf.org" <gen-art@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel.all@ietf.org>, "last-call@ietf.org" <last-call@ietf.org>, "mmusic@ietf.org" <mmusic@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel-21
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Will do. Thanks!

Regards,

Christer

From: Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com>
Sent: torstai 16. heinäkuuta 2020 18.51
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
Cc: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>; gen-art@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel.all@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.org; mmusic@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel-21

If you email the files to internet-drafts@ietf.org<mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> and Cc: me, I'll approve them and then the secretariat will put the update in the tracker.
-MSK

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 5:39 AM Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>> wrote:
Hi,

I have created a new version (-22) of the draft, based on Brian's comment.

Murray, as the submission window is currently closed, are you able to manually submit the new version if I send you the files?

Regards,

Christer



-----Original Message-----
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com<mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>>
Sent: maanantai 13. heinäkuuta 2020 23.52
To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com<mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>>; gen-art@ietf.org<mailto:gen-art@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-mmusic-msrp-usage-data-channel-21

Thanks Christer, that all looks good to me,

Regards
   Brian

On 13-Jul-20 20:58, Christer Holmberg wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Thank You for the review! Please see inline.
>
>
> Nits:
> -----
>
>>> 4.1.  MSRP URI
>>> ....
>>>     transport  /= "dc"
>>>
>>> I see that RFC7977 takes a slightly different approach to updating the ABNF:
>>>
>>>     transport  =  "tcp" / "ws" / 1*ALPHANUM
>>>
>> The advantage of listing out
>>
>>  transport  =  "tcp" / "ws" / "dc" / 1*ALPHANUM
>>
>> would be that the reader sees the full list.
>
> The MMUSIC WG has previously decided to take the approach of only writing the new value, using the "/=" format.
>
> ---
>
>>>                  ; Add "dc" to existing transports per [RFC4975]
>>>
>>> I suggest
>>>
>>>                 ; Add "dc" to existing transports per Section 9 of [RFC4975]
>
> Will modify as suggested.
>
> ---
>
>>> 4.6.  Session Closing
>>>
>>>   The SDP answerer must ensure that no dcmap or dcsa attributes are
>>>   present in the SDP answer if no corresponding attributes are present
>>>   in the received SDP offer.
>>>
>>> Should that be MUST?
>
> The reason for "must" is that is referring to generic data channel SDP O/A procedures.
>
> I suggest to remove the paragraph.
>
> ---
>
>>> B2BUA
>>>
>>> Define the acronym please.
>
> We normally don't do that in MMUSIC specifications. Also, it is on the IETF list of well-known acronyms.
>
> Having said that, I am fine to enhance it on first occurrence: 'Back-to-Back User Agent (B2BUA)'
>
> ---
>
>>> 9.2.  Subprotocol Identifier MSRP
>>>
>>>   A reference to this document is added to the subprotocol identifier
>>>   "msrp" in the "WebSocket Subprotocol Name Registry"
>>>
>>> s/this document/RFCXXXX/
>
> Will modify as suggested.
>
> ---
>
>>> 11.  CHANGE LOG
>>>
>>> Mark this section for deletion by the RFC Editor
>
> I think the RFC Editor will delete it by default, but we can add explicit text.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christer
>