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Eric C Rosen <erosen@juniper.net> Mon, 15 August 2016 18:51 UTC

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Thanks for your review.

On 8/9/2016 4:41 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote:
> it will be unlikely that a new implementer, schooled in the subject 
> matter, will be able to create a correct implementation.

The material in this draft describes running code.   There are at least 
two independent, interoperable implementations.  The draft was written 
after the implementations were done, and is a faithful description of 
what was implemented.

While doing the implementation, it was discovered that the Ingress 
Replication feature of RFCs 6513/6514 was under-specified in some 
respects and unclearly specified in others.  The purpose of this draft 
is to document the procedures that had to be figured out during this 
implementation effort.

I can assure you that this draft makes it a lot easier to implement this 
feature!

Of course, Ingress Replication is just part of a larger and more complex 
system.  The draft shows how IR fits into the larger system, but the 
overall system remains complex.

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