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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think 6811 is the right ref for this. 8481 is the one you put in an RFP ;= -) I still prefer my wording, but this should be sufficiently hard to misinter= pret. Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Job Snijders Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 8:48:51 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: Ben Maddison ; keyur@arrcus.com ; sidrops@ietf.org ; draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress.all@= ietf.org ; last-call@ietf.org ; gen-art@ietf.org ; rjsparks@nostrum.c= om Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-si= drops-ov-egress-01 On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:42:47AM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > > Having spend the better part of last week stepping a vendor through > > exactly these semantics > > while there is no proof of termination of clue insertion, that a BGP/ROV > *implementor* did not get it, justifies the hack. > > As the origin AS of a BGP UPDATE is decided by configuration and > outbound policy of the BGP speaker, a validating BGP speaker MUST > apply Route Origin Validation policy semantics (see [RFC6811] Sec 2) > against the origin Autonomous System number which will actually be > put in the AS_PATH (see [RFC4271] 4.3 Path Attributes:b) of the > UPDATE to the peer. Looks good to me. Kind regards, Job --_000_AM7P190MB058396E044389A306B8B5CAEC0F50AM7P190MB0583EURP_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I think 6811 is the right ref for this. 8481 is the one you put in an RFP ;= -)

I still prefer my wording, but this should be sufficiently hard to misinter= pret.

From: Job Snijders <job@= ntt.net>
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2020 8:48:51 PM
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: Ben Maddison <benm@workonline.africa>; keyur@arrcus.com &l= t;keyur@arrcus.com>; sidrops@ietf.org <sidrops@ietf.org>; draft-ie= tf-sidrops-ov-egress.all@ietf.org <draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress.all@ietf= .org>; last-call@ietf.org <last-call@ietf.org>; gen-art@ietf.org <gen-art@ietf.org>; rjsparks@nostrum.com <rjsparks@nostrum.com>= ;
Subject: Re: [Last-Call] [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-= ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01
 
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 11:42:47AM -0700, Randy Bu= sh wrote:
> > Having spend the better part of last week stepping a vendor throu= gh
> > exactly these semantics
>
> while there is no proof of termination of clue insertion, that a BGP/R= OV
> *implementor* did not get it, justifies the hack.
>
>    As the origin AS of a BGP UPDATE is decided by confi= guration and
>    outbound policy of the BGP speaker, a validating BGP= speaker MUST
>    apply Route Origin Validation policy semantics (see = [RFC6811] Sec 2)
>    against the origin Autonomous System number which wi= ll actually be
>    put in the AS_PATH (see [RFC4271] 4.3 Path Attribute= s:b) of the
>    UPDATE to the peer.

Looks good to me.

Kind regards,

Job
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