Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc3265bis-07.txt
Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Tue, 24 April 2012 15:06 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-Art review of draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc3265bis-07.txt
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Hi Adam, Sorry I've missed your reply earlier. On 11/04/2012 23:03, Adam Roach wrote: > On 4/10/12 5:46 AM, Alexey Melnikov wrote: [...] >> Also, it might be good to reference RFC 3986 for URIs here. > Given that SIP uses URIs everywhere, I'm not sure what benefit is > derived by referencing the URI syntax draft here. Ok. >> >> 4.4.4. Allow-Events header field usage >> >> The "Allow-Events" header field does not include a list of the etvent >> >> typo: event > > I don't find "etvent" in the document: > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipcore-rfc3265bis-07#section-4.4.4 > > Is it possible you accidentally edited a local copy of the file prior > to your review? It is possible. Not a big deal either way. > I also don't find this typo in the source (which would surprise me in > any case, as I made sure to run the -07 version through a spell checker). >> >> template packages supported by an implementation. If a subscriber >> wishes to determine which event template packages are supported by a >> notifier, it can probe for such support by attempting to subscribe to >> the event template packages it wishes to use. >> >> Can you clarify how such request would look like? An example would be >> nice. > > I'm not sure what you're asking for here. It would be a SUBSCRIBE > message, with an "Event" header field set to name the template you > want to use. Basically it just says "we don't negotiate templates -- > just try it and see if it fails." So my understanding is that it is not possible to just request a template event (it needs to be combined with something else)? I think some explanation and/or examples of this would be good, I don't think this is very clear in the document. [...] >> 7.2. Reason Codes >> >> This document further defines "reason" codes for use in the >> "Subscription-State" header field (see Section 4.1.3). >> >> Following the policies outlined in "Guidelines for Writing an IANA >> Considerations Section in RFCs" [RFC5226], new reason codes require a >> Standards Action. >> >> Minor: This would prevent registration of new Reason Codes in an >> Experimental RFC (for example). I would like to double check that >> that is intentional. > > It never came up explicitly during working group discussions, to my > memory. > >> Registrations with the IANA include the reason code being registered >> and a reference to a published document which describes the event >> package. Insertion of such values takes place as part of the RFC >> publication process or as the result of inter-SDO liaison activity. >> >> I don't think Standards Action allows for "inter-SDO liaison >> activity", unless such documents from other SDOs are published as >> Standard Track RFCs. So I find your text confusing: either your >> registration procedure should also allow for direct IESG approvals >> (to allow registrations from other SDOs with no RFCs), or you should >> remove "as the result of inter-SDO liaison activity". > > You're right. I suspect we really intended to make this registrable by > external SDOs, meaning we probably really wanted Specification > Required. I'm leaving this as-is for now, and will need to coordinate > with our AD to iron out where to go with this. > Ok, I will tell Russ that these 2 issues are still pending resolution. >> 8.4. Augmented BNF Definitions >> >> event-type = event-package *( "." event-template ) >> >> Minor: Does this mean that multiple template packages can be applied? >> Is there any ordering for them? > Yes, and yes. >> How would "foo.A.B" differ from "foo.B.A"? > > Right now, we have only one template defined -- but imagine that we > did define a new "list" template event package (we almost did this > some years ago) which is used to aggregate several resources into a > single subscription. > > "Event: presence.winfo.list" would subscribe to the aggregation of > several watcher-info documents into a single list. > > "Event: presence.list.winfo" would subscribe to the watcher-info state > of the indicated list. Ok, so the ordering is important. Is this documented anywhere? > >> Nit: id-nits complains: >> >> -- Duplicate reference: RFC4660, mentioned in 'RFC4660', was also >> mentioned >> in 'RFC 4660'. >> >> "[RFC 4660]" reference is used in section 7.2. > > id-nits is wrong. It incorrectly thinks that the paragraph starting > with [RFC4660] on page 40 is trying to define a reference. I thought it was a reference, but this is not a big deal.
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