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Re: [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Sun, 15 April 2018 22:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Rtgdir early review of draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-bgp-community-06
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Randy, I did suggest that one would update the offline data.
My point was that the draft claims taht extreme timliness is needed. 
For IP block geolocation, timeliness on the order of a day (much shorter 
than the several days before the IETF when the IETF block gets turned on 
somewhere.)

Thus, again, you are not making a case for why the existing techniques 
which are easier to implement and deploy are not sufficie3nt for the 
problem.

Yours,
Joel

On 4/15/18 6:28 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> I fone has geo-information, it is unlikely to change.
> 
> i guess you have never noticed when you are at ietf praha and your phone
> says you are in seoul or whatever.  it takes non-trivial ops pain to get
> ietf attendees geoloc to work; and sometimes we can't.
> 
> when you find yourself in a hole, first thing is to stop digging.
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