Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-rats-architecture-21

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Sun, 21 August 2022 16:15 UTC

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From: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
To: Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com>
cc: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>, gen-art@ietf.org, draft-ietf-rats-architecture.all@ietf.org, last-call@ietf.org, rats@ietf.org
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-rats-architecture-21
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Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> wrote:
    >> Yes, the way in which the Evidence is relayed is vendor proprietary,
    >> but the the Evidence and/or Attestation Results are then relayed to an
    >> external verifier.

    > I don’t know anything about router architecture, but do about mobile
    > phone architecture which I consider a candidate for composite
    > attestation.

    > A mobile phone based on a chip like a Qualcomm Snapdragon has many
    > subsystems. Something like this: - A TEE and/or HW root of trust,
    > perhaps controlled by the chip vendor, not the phone vendor - A Secure

Laurence, the key point which you missed communicating, is whether or not all
these subsystems produce evidence which is either:
  a) evaluated by other subsystems, so never leves the device, and is not
  subject to standardization.  (As Gyan has suggested)
-or-
  b) collected by other subsystems and then sent off the device to a Verifier
for evaluation.


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