Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-13
Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> Mon, 08 August 2016 19:29 UTC
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From: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, "draft-ietf-clue-datachannel.all@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-clue-datachannel.all@ietf.org>, General Area Review Team <gen-art@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-13
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Hi, I've created a new version of the draft, based on Brian's comments. It's not yet submitted, but can be found at GitHub: https://github.com/cdh4u/draft-clue-datachannel/blob/master/draft-ietf-clue-datachannel.txt The only change is to add a reference to the club protocol draft in the Introduction section. Alissa, please let me know when I can submit the new version :) Thanks! Regards, Christer -----Original Message----- From: Christer Holmberg [mailto:christer.holmberg@ericsson.com] Sent: 07 August 2016 20:13 To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>; draft-ietf-clue-datachannel.all@ietf.org; General Area Review Team <gen-art@ietf.org> Subject: RE: Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-clue-datachannel-13 Hi Brian, ... >>> Minor issues: >>> ------------- >>> >>> Mainly for my own education: >>> >>> 3.2.6. SCTP Multihoming >>> >>> SCTP multi-homing is not supported for SCTPoDTLS associations, and >>> can therefore not be used for a CLUE data channel. >>> >>> What is the advantage of SCTP if you don't get the benefit of multihoming? >> >> There are other SCTP features that are used. The most essential is >> the SCTP multi stream feature, which allows multiple data channels >> using a single SCTP associations: each data channel is implemented using two unidirectional SCTP streams. >> >> SCTP also provide different options when it comes to data transport reliability and ordering, and data channels can use different combinations. > > OK, thanks. I have the impression that this explanation is given > nowhere in the CLUE documents (and not in draft-ietf-rtcweb-transports either). I think it would be helpful if it was recorded *somewhere*. > It doesn't really belong in clue-datachannel. I agree - it's not the task of CLUE to justify the decisions made by RTCWEB. For the details of the data channel mechanism, please take a look at draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-data-channel Regards, Christer > > >> Nits: >> ----- >> >> I expected a reference to draft-ietf-clue-protocol where CLUE is first mentioned in the Introduction. > > I'll fix that. Thanks Brian
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Paul Kyzivat
- [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-i… Alissa Cooper