Re: [Gen-art] [kitten] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-06

Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu> Wed, 07 February 2018 17:35 UTC

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Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2018 11:35:34 -0600
From: Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@mit.edu>
To: Weijun Wang <weijun.wang@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [kitten] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-06
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I am doing a review now.  (Line 413, "SHOULD not" --> "SHOULD NOT"
is all I have so far.)

And I will second Greg's comment about this format being an awesome
way to view these changes -- thank you again for putting them
together!

-Ben

On Tue, Feb 06, 2018 at 10:17:35PM +0800, Weijun Wang wrote:
> I will submit a new draft tomorrow if there is no other feedback.
> 
> Thanks
> Weijun
> 
> > On Jan 29, 2018, at 9:26 AM, Weijun Wang <weijun.wang@oracle.com> wrote:
> > 
> > The HTML file updated in place.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Weijun
> > 
> >> On Jan 27, 2018, at 10:12 AM, Greg Hudson <ghudson@mit.edu> wrote:
> >> 
> >> On 01/23/2018 06:43 PM, Weijun Wang wrote:
> >>> I've uploaded an updated version at
> >>> 
> >>> http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~weijun/rfc5653bis/draft-ietf-kitten-rfc5653bis-07.html
> >> 
> >> This is a great format for reviewing these changes; thanks for
> >> generating it.
> >> 
> >> Line 416 does not capitalize "optional" in "optional services", but
> >> lines 385 and 391 do.
> >> 
> >> Lines 422 and 424 should probably capitalize "should".  Line 429 should
> >> probably capitalize "may".
> >> 
> >> At line 598, I would lean towards leaving "MUST" in lowercase as we are
> >> describing an application requirement, not prescribing one.
> >> 
> >> Line 1174, I would leave "MAY" in lowercase.
> >> 
> >> Line 1229, "may" should probably be capitalized.
> >> 
> >> Line 1369, I would leave "MAY" alone as this seems more descriptive than
> >> prescriptive.
> >> 
> >> Line 3221's use of "SHOULD" is prescriptive, but there's no other way to
> >> request the default QOP.  So I would leave it lowercase (or change the
> >> wording, but I'm not trying to open any more cans of worms).
> >> 
> > 
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