Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART Telechat review of draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-11.txt

[+barry]

I apologize to reply to myself, but I would be remiss to not mention that Barry Leiba had a related COMMENT on the "must immediately start” text.   His suggestion is to remove the words “MUST immediately” (i.e. Just have “start”).  As he writes: "What *else* might the client [server] do, which merits a MUST here?”

While I personally do think that it is “MUST immediately”, I think that the wording is still be accurate without it...and thus simply removing these two words provides an alternate way to resolve Suresh’s comment.  Thoughts?

Thanks,
Kent

On 10/22/15, 5:35 PM, "Kent Watsen" <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote:

>
>Hi Jari, Suresh,
>
>Thank you for your suggestion.  How about this, after each of the four uses of “must immediately start” (in C3, C8, S3, and S6), we add the sentence:
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>    It is unnecessary for the <protocol> [client/server] to wait
>    for the remote peer to initiate the <protocol> first.
>
>Would this be helpful?
>
>Thanks,
>Kent
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>
>
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>On 10/22/15, 9:05 AM, "Jari Arkko" <jari.arkko@piuha.net> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the explanation, Kent, and for the review, Suresh. Can the explanation be added to the document for other people who might have the same question.
>>
>>Jari
>>
>>On 21 Oct 2015, at 19:37, Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> wrote:
>>
>>> 
>>> Hi Suresh,
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your review.
>>> 
>>> To answer your question, the server can start the SSH server protocol immediately.  It does not have the wait for the client for anything.  At least, this is how my code works  :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Kent
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/21/15, 12:10 AM, "Suresh Krishnan" <suresh.krishnan@ericsson.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>
>>>> 
>>>> Please wait for direction from your document shepherd or AD before
>>>> posting a new version of the draft.
>>>> 
>>>> Document: draft-ietf-netconf-call-home-11.txt
>>>> Reviewer: Suresh Krishnan
>>>> Review Date: 2015/10/20
>>>> IESG Telechat date: 2015/10/22
>>>> 
>>>> Summary: The draft is ready for publication as a Proposed Standard but I do
>>>> have a comment that you may wish to address.
>>>> 
>>>> Minor
>>>> =====
>>>> 
>>>> * Section 3.1 S3: The server cannot immediately start the SSH server protocol
>>>> without waiting for SSH connection initiation from the SSH client, right? If
>>>> yes, shouldn't there be an additional condition here?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Suresh
>>>> 
>>>> 
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