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Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Wed, 08 July 2020 15:56 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [Gen-art] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider-16
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Stewart, thanks for your review.

> On Jul 3, 2020, at 9:29 AM, Stewart Bryant via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> wrote:
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> Reviewer: Stewart Bryant
> Review result: Ready with Issues
> 
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area
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> Document: draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider-16
> Reviewer: Stewart Bryant
> Review Date: 2020-07-03
> IETF LC End Date: 2020-06-01
> IESG Telechat date: 2020-07-09
> 
> Summary: This is a well written document and is much improved over the previous
> version that I reviewed. I thank the author for their work in that regard.
> However I do have one concern that I think the Area Directors need to consider
> carefully.
> 
> Major issues:
>     Whilst the document has undoubtedly gained consensus in the
>     transport area, it is not clear whether the other areas that will
>     be impacted have properly considered the implications
>     of the text and proactively given their consensus to the text.
> 
>     In particular the following text in a BCP may be a burden on future
>     protocols, particularly in the routing and OAM spaces, with the potential
>     for disagreements in the closing stages of specification approval.
> 
>      - The requirements in this document may not be appropriate in all
>        cases and, therefore, inconsistent deviations and variants may
>        be necessary (hence the "SHOULD" in the last bullet).  However,
>        inconsistencies MUST be (a) explained and (b) gather consensus.
> 
>     It is possible that I am over-reacting but experience tells me that this
>     holds the seeds of future disagreements between areas, delays in
>     publication, and possible re-engineering of what are in practice perfectly
>     acceptable implementations.

I can see the concern, but given that the key requirement is a SHOULD I expect there to be flexibility in interpretation.

Alissa 

> 
> Minor issues:
> 
>    None
> 
> Nits/editorial comments:
>    There is a trivial nits issue in the abstract that the RFC editor will need
>    to resolve.
> 
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