Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 30 March 2021 20:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-eggert-bcp45bis-01.txt
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On 31-Mar-21 01:58, Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 2021-3-30, at 15:07, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> wrote:
>> That’s my point.  Before we do a BCP45 update, perhaps we should ask if we should go farther, and take on Mark’s draft as well in this context, and then consider what should be done.  I like the idea of facilitated conversation.  I think it could be fun (a term not usually associated with the IETF list) but that’s me.  I’m sure others have their own ideas.
> 
> I'd prefer to do a minimal update to BCP45 soon, to bring its charter back in line with its current use.

Yes please. And I think it can be dispatched fairly rapidly as an AD-sponsored draft, for which I hope Lars can find an AD ;-).

> 
> We can always revise it again, when there is consensus on more fundamental changes.

Agreed, and that needs a much deeper analysis. And IMNSHO there are many much more important process issues to resolve than the occasional unruly threads on ietf@. Just to pick one at random, what can we do to prevent something like Cluster 238 ever happening again?

    Brian