Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders

[Eliot Lear <[e-mail]>]

Taking a step back from this lengthy thread, I wonder if people have taken more meaning than was intended. I am reminded of the RIPE Roundtable discussions and how they help in level setting both policy makers and others in terms of the latest developments both within RIPE and in the broader ecosystem.  

I read the draft as expressing some amount of confusion, and perhaps just a bit of frustration, on the part of policy experts as to how to engage our organization.  There may be, perhaps, too many starting points from their point of view.  I’m not sure simply adding another venue would be helpful, but if my perception is correct (and I could be 180° off) perhaps a bit more thought could be given to the engagement model. 

I would suggest that this work be dispatched to the IAB and also to ISOC’s policy team for further consideration and consultations. 

Eliot

On 13 Jun 2023, at 19:32, Stacie Hoffmann <stacie.hoffmann=[e-mail]> wrote:



Hello everyone, 

Many thanks to those of you who provided feedback to us on the Policy Experts are IETF Stakeholders draft at the 116 Gen Dispatch meeting. 

We have uploaded a new version (see below), which we are preparing for the 117 meeting and welcome further input or ideas on how to refine our problem statement or scope potential solutions. In particular, we would welcome specific examples of how and where policy input is working well, and thoughts on a ‘landing space’ or next steps for this work. 

Please reach out to the authors directly with comments or suggestions. 

Also, if anyone is interested in reviewing or contributing to this document please let us know. It would be great to work with others on this. 

Best,

Stacie

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Name:           draft-hoffmann-gendispatch-policy-stakeholders
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Title:          Policy experts are IETF stakeholders
Document date:  2023-06-13
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Abstract:
   The IETF’s work has significance for wider societal, economic, and
   political communities, though gaps and barriers to engagement with
   the IETF exist for policy experts.  This informational draft
   introduces a problem statement and gap analysis of existing
   initiatives related to policy expert engagement in the IETF.  It also
   poses questions we hope to work through with others in the IETF
   community regarding how to better enable policy expert engagement in
   IETF standardisation, and on how we can build a culture which better
   supports technical and policy experts working together to develop
   more robust standards.




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