Re: [Gendispatch] Sponsored or Endorsed by the Internet Society in draft-eggert-bcp45bis

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 29 September 2021 21:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Sponsored or Endorsed by the Internet Society in draft-eggert-bcp45bis
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On 30-Sep-21 05:16, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Dhruv,
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>> On Sep 29, 2021, at 3:56 AM, Dhruv Dhody <dhruv.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hi,
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>> Both RFC3005 and draft-eggert-bcp45bis have text on conferences/ events/activities that are sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or IETF. The SAA team is looking for suggestions if it is okay to remove Internet Society; as it is difficult to judge if something is ISOC sponsored/endorsed [1]. Thoughts?
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> I think ISOC should not be removed.

I agree. Where does most of our money come from? Who else specifically works to ensure that the Internet is for everyone? It would be inappropriate to change this policy (and given that BCP45 is in force, it would be against our own rules).
 
> Sponsored should be easy to tell, ISOC should be on the events web site and/or on the link you supplied.

Or the email address of the sender will validate it.

> For endorses, I agree that is harder to tell.  Of course, how hard would it be for the SAA team to ask ISOC about a specific event.

And how often per year does this even arise?

I agree that it would be unfortunate to allow a message that contains a spurious claim of ISOC sponsorship, but this is not about censorship, it's about managing unruly discussions, so we should probably not make a big deal of this.

   Brian

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> None of this would be very difficult.
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> Bob
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>> Thanks!
>> Dhruv
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>> [1] https://www.internetsociety.org/events/
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>> PR -> https://github.com/larseggert/bcp45bis/pull/9
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