Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 12 March 2021 20:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.txt
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As already  noted, this can't really be an IETF document since it purports to cover all streams.

>  2.1.3. Proposal 3: domain usage 

I think this section is actively harmful. The canonical place for all RFCs is rfc-editor.org; I think that we should very likely deprecate copies in any other domains (although those domains should certainly have pointers to the canonical copies).

Really, RFCs have no place in the IETF data tracker, except as pointers.

>  2.2. Internet-Drafts
> 
> The following recommendations apply to the publication of Internet-Drafts.

The problem here is that draft-foo-bar has no intrinsic link to any of the streams. A differentiation can only be made later, if the draft becomes draft-ietf-bar or draft-irtf-bar. So how would we algorithmically classify draft-nottingham-quic-new-idea or draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from?

Regards
   Brian

On 12-Mar-21 14:44, internet-drafts@ietf.org wrote:
> 
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
> 
> 
>         Title           : Clarifying IETF Document Status
>         Author          : Mark Nottingham
> 	Filename        : draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 7
> 	Date            : 2021-03-11
> 
> Abstract:
>    There is widespread confusion about the status of Internet-Drafts and
>    RFCs, especially regarding their association with the IETF and other
>    streams.  This document recommends several interventions to more
>    closely align reader perceptions with actual document status.
> 
> 
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from/
> 
> There is also an HTML version available at:
> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-nottingham-where-does-that-come-from-00.html
> 
> 
> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
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> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
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