Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG

Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> Mon, 15 February 2021 23:07 UTC

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From: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] draft charter text: terminology-related WG
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On 2/15/21 2:58 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>        As a credentialed, white, and (relatively, of course) wealthy person who
>      does not say the kinds of things that Jay is wishing to hear I feel like I
>      can take issue with his statement. He's saying he views me as a potential
>      problem. He's wary of me because the alternative, in his mind, to not
>      repeating the approved platitudes is to be a racist or a racist sympathizer
>      or a diminisher of "the historic impact of racism." Well nuts to that!
>
> I assume you can appreciate the difference between an individual and an organization.
>
> Do you think that Jay's note [1] was talking about individuals or an organization?
>
> [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/eNzvM5o6QvVKHjmqkyBMY_AxuaA/

   The thing I take issue with was directed at "people", a collection of 
persons.
And those persons can be thought of as individuals if you like. Now that 
group of
persons can (partially) make up an organization but that's irrelevant to 
my beef
with Jay's statement.

   Why are you wading in to this Rich?

   Dan.

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