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Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 07 April 2021 01:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org
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On 4/6/21 9:29 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:

> ietf@ is like the parable of the blind men and the elephant?

IMO IETF would be a much more effective organization if more of its 
participants were aware of that parable.

Keith

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