Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt

Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 04 September 2021 10:18 UTC

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From: Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2021 22:18:25 +1200
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt
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Exactly. The draft looks like common sense if you are aware of what
antitrust (aka competition) law is. But not everybody is aware. For those
who are not, it's useful information. We should have done this years ago.

Regards,
    Brian Carpenter
    (via tiny screen & keyboard)

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021, 18:42 Joel M. Halpern, <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:

> What a number of other SDOsd have found, and makes sense to me, is that
> explaining to folks some of the parameters they need to look for is very
> helpful for a number of issues. All the ones I have seen do this also
> make clear that it should not be considered legal advice, and that those
> in need of legal details should talk to a lawyer.
>
> This is itnended as a set of guidelines that help people understand the
> dangerous space.  It can not, and does not, tell you exactly what you
> can or can't do.  That would be legal advice, and would be rules.
> Neither of which this document provides.
>
> Our current policies do not even mention many of these dimensions.  It
> seems helpful to our participants to improve that.  Maybe you are so
> familiar with antitrust that it doesn't help you.
>
> Yours,
> Joel
>
> On 9/4/2021 2:12 AM, Rob Sayre wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 10:46 PM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com
> > <mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     No, as I understand it, telling people to obey the law is not "legal
> >     advice".
> >
> >
> > Well, this could get tedious, but let's go with Wikipedia[1]:
> >
> > "The provision of legal advice will often involve analyzing a set of
> > facts and advising a person to take a specific course of action based on
> > the applicable law."
> >
> > While we could rathole on these points, I think the larger point is that
> > the draft says nothing important on legal issues. How could it? It's
> > supposed to apply to the entire world.
> >
> > So, what is the problem this draft is trying to fix? Why now?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Rob
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_advice
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_advice>
>
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