Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-thomson-gendispatch-rfc-derivatives-00.txt

Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> Fri, 29 September 2023 07:44 UTC

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On 29.09.23 09:23, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> Yes, there are powers in the world other than the IAB and IESG (thankfully). They are often used wisely; sometimes, they are not. Interestingly, none of them can yet affect the _entire_ Internet.

Except that is precisely where we are heading because physics doesn't 
obey man-made jurisdictions.  How do I know which fork to apply?  So we 
end up selling specific code into jurisdictions? It's been done before, 
but it's never good for interoperability. And it begins to look like the 
fiasco that spectrum management is today.  Is that what we want?  Oh, 
and I promise you that no small player will be able to play at the 
global level.  Bye bye Firefox and Thunderbird.

If another jurisdiction replicates Europe's model and then diverges,  we 
have can end up in one of two scenarios- one bad and the other worse:

  * Bad: different code points, but a local requirement to use a
    particular standard; meaning no common algorithm selection.
  * Worse: same code point but different meaning.

We can and have seriously limited both of these threats through our 
copyrights.  If we give up on that we are asking for chaos.

Eliot