Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Tue, 05 September 2023 16:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
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On 9/4/23 2:34 AM, Eliot Lear wrote: > I don't mind drafts hanging out somewhere accessible, but can we > separate expiry from removal or archiving? > > We already have a problem with internet-drafts being misrepresented as > being more than they are. Right now, at least someone reading the > thing can point to the top and say, “Hey! This draft expired!” In > fact, I would love to add a watermark on a draft that is expired; > diagonal for HTML and PDF, and more prominent top and bottom for text. > > Also, I would suggest that rsync and other tools not have to retrieve > expired work. The drafts directory is cluttered as it is. Just to be sure you know - there are two endpoints for rsync-ing drafts: internet-drafts - The Internet Draft Repository (currently active drafts) id-archive - The Internet Draft Archive (both active and expired drafts) RjS > > Also, as ISE I use the expiration as a signal that the authors may > have lost interest in their work. I'm sure WG chairs do the same. > > Eliot > > On 04.09.23 02:23, Martin Thomson wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 1, 2023, at 16:48, Pengshuping (Peng Shuping) wrote: >>> Do you feel the need that we meet at IETF 118? >>> Please let us know if you have any topic you'd like to discuss. >> Paul and I just submitted >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-01 >> >> We've talked about this in the past. This version contains a >> suggested response to the criticism that the last version received. >> >> This might not be justification for a meeting on its own, but if the >> group is meeting, we'd appreciate some time to discuss. >> >
- [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118? Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Jim Reid
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Salz, Rich