Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt
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John et al., The provisions seem like a sensible means for reducing IETF antitrust litigation risk. Some of the behavior manifested in the IETF over the years has resulted in potential exposure for the organisation because of the lack of such guidelines and their institutional enforcement. You might find it useful to compare to similar recently strengthened provisions at ETSI - which has been drawn into rather costly litigation because those provisions were lacking and subsequently judicially mandated. Competition authorities are exercising greater scrutiny today. Essentially all standards bodies have similar provisions. Consider it litigation insurance. best, tony r On 23-Oct-22 2:20 PM, John R Levine wrote: >>> Sometimes reality intrudes anyway: >>> >>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/us/financial-aid-lawsuit-colleges.html >>> >> >> Really? You think a set of universities will use the IETF to >> progress their secret plans? > > No, that's not how it works. If US academics come to the IETF and > talk about how much tuition to charge, that would be enough to get > them dragged into this suit, regardless of what they say their > intentions are, or what their intentions actually are. > > That's why sensible people stay away from those red lines. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly >
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Rob Sayre
- [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gend… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… John Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… John R Levine
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Christian Huitema
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendi… Brad Biddle