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Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Fri, 29 September 2023 06:23 UTC

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From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 16:22:48 +1000
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-thomson-gendispatch-rfc-derivatives-00.txt
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> On 29 Sep 2023, at 4:14 pm, Eliot Lear <lear@lear.ch> wrote:
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>> A fork of a protocol that uses the same codepoints and different protocol definition (i.e., the RFC 5704 problem) has a defense, which is the same one that was used at the time. The best defense against that is not the application of copyright law, but the reputation and good name of the IETF.
> 
> While that might have worked in the past, it won't work in the future.  The regulatory environment is changing.  The only way to defend against it will be through copyright, because that is the only dragon that governments are not willing to slay right now.

I'm not sure what point you're making here. Are you saying that the reputation and name of the IETF is being devalued thanks to changes in the regulatory environment?


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