Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Mon, 04 September 2023 02:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
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I can live with that. There probably are several ways to skin this cat so that new folks looking at our IDs don't get confused about what is current and what is not being considered. Yours, Joel On 9/3/2023 10:52 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 04-Sep-23 13:22, Joel Halpern wrote: >> I think forcing tombstones would be a very good idea. Deciding when to >> do so may be more than a little interesting. > > Tombstones were nothing but a nuisance when they existed. What's the > point? > It just adds cruft to https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/. > > Of course, if an author *wants* to submit an I-D saying "This idea has > been abandoned", that would be fine, but I don't think there will be > many takers. > > My suggestion (just sent) is simply to make drafts >1 year old invisible > in the default search. > > Brian > >> >> Yours, >> >> Joel >> >> On 9/3/2023 9:06 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >>> >>> Hiya, >>> >>> On 04/09/2023 01:23, Martin Thomson wrote: >>> >>>> Paul and I just submitted >>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-01 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We've talked about this in the past. This version contains a >>>> suggested response to the criticism that the last version received. >>> >>> The draft seems fine to me. I'd suggest adding a >>> recommendation that it'd be useful to publish a >>> tombstone version for drafts that are no longer >>> under consideration (at that point in time) as I >>> do think we have a small problem with drafts that >>> are going nowhere, but that not being visible to >>> readers. Not a big deal, but could be worthwhile, >>> >>> Cheers, >>> S. >>> >>> >>
- [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118? Pengshuping (Peng Shuping)
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Joel Halpern
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Robert Sparks
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Jim Reid
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Rob Sayre
- Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 1… Salz, Rich