Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders
Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> Wed, 12 July 2023 15:26 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders
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Hi, On 7/12/23 11:02 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > That said, there are some technology interests that are critical to > the functioning of democratic society. In particular questions such as: > > * Who controls access to the public square? > * Is there a public square? > * Is it dominated by the loud mouthed thug with an amplifier? > * Who owns the data? > * The individual to which it relates or some corporation? > * Who has agency? > * Can people choose their service provider? > * Can people change their service provider? > > Rather than writing up documents describing input on how to raise such > issues, why not just write a document that raises them? Only chiming in to point people to a RG draft that takes the human rights approach to this question, framed as "free association and the right to protest": https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-irtf-hrpc-association/ I'd encourage anyone interested in these broader questions to join the HRPC list and session at 117 to bring new work, ideas, etc. Best, -Mallory -- Mallory Knodel CTO, Center for Democracy and Technology gpg fingerprint :: E3EB 63E0 65A3 B240 BCD9 B071 0C32 A271 BD3C C780
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