Re: [Gendispatch] what are we doing here, Meetings summary

[John Levine <[e-mail]>]

In article <[e-mail]> you write:
>While I am very appreciative of the current discussion for its calm and 
>considered comportment and, above all, our collective willingness to 
>consider the larger and complex diversity issues in the IETF, that is, 
>again, not what draft-knodel is meant to do.

I think the message here is that yes, we understand that, but the
group sets its agenda. I don't see any interest in dealing with racist
language without also at least looking at other language issues.

>Niels and I set about with what we considered a small task: provide 
>guidance and rationale to authors when thinking carefully about their 
>use of two specific metaphors that are now outmoded in the wider 
>community for explicitly political, not technical, reasons. 

I found that that the discussion of "blacklist", asserting that it is
bad because it uses the word black, and ignoring its history in
political and labor repression, severely undermined the argument you
say the document tried to make. Many of us remember who Dalton Trumbo
was.

R's,
John