Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Sat, 03 April 2021 15:23 UTC

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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2021 11:23:24 -0400
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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Ending ietf@ietf.org
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On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 11:13 AM Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
wrote:

>
> - I don't find it hard to process ietf@ietf.org mails, and
> anyone can unsubscribe, and I don't find the content to be
> "toxic" - it's frequently irritating and often boring but
> not much more than that.
>
> - It's a bit sad that people on all sides of most of the
> non-technical discussion on that list seem to be notably more
> absolutist than was the case some years back. A bit more
> tolerance of the imperfections of ourselves and esp. others
> might help some.
>

I can't opine on any of this better than Stephen just did, so I'm just
going to quote his email with a responding thumbs-up.

- In contrast to absolutism perhaps increasing, I see no
> change in our collective willingness to re-state opinions
> and regurgitate arguments over the years - that seems the
> same since I started reading IETF mails:-)
>

I don't have the long history of IETF involvement that you do, but knowing
many of the old-timers I am not at all surprised.

Kyle