Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Sun, 23 October 2022 17:37 UTC

Return-Path: <johnl@taugh.com>
X-Original-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB08BC14F748 for <gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:57 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.108
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.108 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=iecc.com header.b=kidGC39g; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=taugh.com header.b=BCeBbp3z
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id X1GYuK4mzGW8 for <gendispatch@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 991CEC14F743 for <gendispatch@ietf.org>; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
Received: (qmail 2975 invoked from network); 23 Oct 2022 17:37:47 -0000
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; s=b9a.63557beb.k2210; bh=TiQHsYm7kE9HEsNDA89IebqKc8dKiwbk7j7hTVbFFVM=; b=kidGC39gW4As5dymSwB2hI1cSxBuYMy7tTFk8Y1+/3Xsf9VFTCLAUm7b65aK9nfPTehZulo8lpNUa5jRYwonRikI2hBr4W0n7+hEAC8Ad7tw2OowEHyCVceMH4tw/Myi1nUDP0U4XWCQ2I4dzdqlWzKrB3xq1lW0mwX8zotKKS4NkA6XXfjNxwBDKbepgqK058BRwuiuvxaI5Ueb0Z+/X/qfqv5Jg5TfWFIeeAfIiIHgJOEW+12/zOz88yGCLqgD6LX9Phh+lYa0gkUIX6BWeDBE8vVNfOsYES4AUixIUTvualV2asV7cQcQ/Z442yhsNoase9BG84b1wstiFqNNRg==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=taugh.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type; s=b9a.63557beb.k2210; bh=TiQHsYm7kE9HEsNDA89IebqKc8dKiwbk7j7hTVbFFVM=; b=BCeBbp3z3XxwfMPJLEB3xxD3G0Fb5HKTz2MbrHolhszTIAuq+DUeFhgJugw62BXyieyM6EL0BS7Xs5J9dgwT4v0F91LePnkyfZQHD1DJUCs7CHGYCm/rp4q+KmzcpmZaZbjt94NjSWUUbpsBNwwocdf/D5yZMahJQXCVr/Diae1F4RJcQK2/JE+hAiZWqJ9/H2YCDDIStcX0fmFvHefBkvLkFX8u1IEMFydw2fjHK2lhhP47cRA6+/udKyXQEMkl3Gaj0pY0WyTLgASM00cOCLZKsnUfeYHsclynxqnJkSK1xG5wah8MfUKof9+mmM305v7N09IgU3/bNgIl1ixwiQ==
Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.3 ECDHE-RSA AES-256-GCM AEAD) via TCP6; 23 Oct 2022 17:37:47 -0000
Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 7ABFA4D2A6F9; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ary.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0E34D2A6DB; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:45 -0700 (PDT)
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 10:37:45 -0700
Message-ID: <9eed9989-f91f-3153-c066-2c1e9133edd3@taugh.com>
From: John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, gendispatch@ietf.org
X-X-Sender: johnl@ary.local
In-Reply-To: <58e68b60-0b62-ab99-3f07-8ec689680347@cs.tcd.ie>
References: <20221023031849.135234D275E4@ary.local> <58e68b60-0b62-ab99-3f07-8ec689680347@cs.tcd.ie>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/gendispatch/FNQNt_iPyXbb0CoEZ0O7Wlnzy7M>
Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-03.txt
X-BeenThere: gendispatch@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General Area Dispatch <gendispatch.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/gendispatch>, <mailto:gendispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/gendispatch/>
List-Post: <mailto:gendispatch@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gendispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gendispatch>, <mailto:gendispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 17:37:57 -0000

On Sun, 23 Oct 2022, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>> If you showed up at the IETF, and discussed with other academics how
>> many students you plan to admit in each field, and how much tutition
>> you will charge them, or what stipends you will give them, that would
>> surely be a problem if any of the academics were from the U.S.
>
> I have to say that is the least convincing utterly
> unrealistic argument I've seen in a long time;-)

Sometimes reality intrudes anyway:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/us/financial-aid-lawsuit-colleges.html

R's,
John