Re: [Gendispatch] [Ext] Re: New Version Notification for draft-thomson-gendispatch-rfc-derivatives-00.txt

David Huberman <david.huberman@icann.org> Sun, 01 October 2023 15:21 UTC

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Mark Nottingham wrote:

> Yes, there are powers in the world other than the IAB and IESG (thankfully). They are often used wisely; sometimes, they are not. 
> Interestingly, none of them can yet affect the _entire_ Internet.

The European Commission just closed a feedback period for the question of whether the EU's standardization policy (Regulation 1025/2012) should be updated. Though Internet standards are not the focus of this Regulation, it is plausible that this Regulation may be used in the future to require that future Internet standards development that conforms to European values should occur outside of the IETF. As evidenced with ETSI's work on QWACs (which ekr referenced earlier in this thread), the standards that do get sometimes developed outside the IETF could have significant effects on "the entire internet" when a body like the European Commission tries to legally require their adoption (in this case, by the browser vendors in the draft eIDAS 2.0 regulation.)

I work for ICANN these days. For this feedback period, we submitted feedback warning the Commission that a European walled garden could have grave consequences for interoperability. Our submission focuses on the benefits of working within the IETF framework.  

The collection of feedback is found at:
	https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13446-European-standardisation-evaluation_en

ICANN's submission is found at:
	https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/13446-European-standardisation-evaluation/F3437219_en

/david