Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt

S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Tue, 07 September 2021 09:45 UTC

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Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2021 02:44:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-00.txt
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Hi Stephen,
At 05:56 PM 03-09-2021, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>(bullet 4). Again though - I'm not against the draft but
>do think the text needs non-trivial discussion before hitting
>a last call, which'd affect my answer to a "dispatch"
>question: basically I'd not be ok with pushing this ASAP as
>an AD sponsored document, which I think was your reaction.
>I'd maybe be fine with AD sponsored after some community discussion, 
>but not with the text as-is.

The do and don't guidance (in the draft) is good enough as a starting 
point.  However, it comes out as overly simplistic [1].

Regards,
S. Moonesamy

1. The IETF Administration LLC stated that "Summaries oversimplify, 
and grow outdated. Bright line dos/don'ts miss important nuance".

Regards,
S. Moonesamy