Re: [Gendispatch] Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF

Juliana Guerra <> Tue, 23 February 2021 17:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF
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Hi Fernando, thanks for this important document. Some comments:

- This sentence "Lack of diversity in IETF groups and leadership roles
has a direct effect on IETF participation, as a result of" is confusing,
and is only followed by a description in detail of "lack of diversity."

- For language inclusiveness, I recommend to replace "his" with "their"
or "his or her" in cases such as "WG chair leaves his role"

- With regard to Section 11.2, I think it's necessary to say something
more about the "bit of an art to using [email] efectively". Maybe
describing some specific IETF lists dynamics.

- In section 11.3 Comfort Zone, I missed at least a comment about the
difficulties and necessary compromises to deal with disagreement and
difference. I think it would be useful to mention RFC 7154 and RFC 7776,
and consider the list Vittorio B shared before.

And two comments following the conversation here:

- I agree that it would be better for the draft to focus on identifying
obstacles to inclusion.

- I think the "mostly running code" issue is out of scope in this draft.


Juliana G

On 22/02/21 19:07, Fernando Gont wrote:
> Folks,
> We have submitted a new I-D, entitled "Diversity and Inclusiveness in
> the IETF".
> The I-D is available at:
> We expect that our document be discussed in the gendispatch wg
> ( But given the
> breadth of the topic and possible views, we'll be glad to discuss it
> where necessary/applicable/desired.
> As explicitly noted in our I-D, we're probably only scratching the
> surface here -- but we believe that our document is probably a good
> start to discuss many aspects of diversity that deserve discussion.
> Thanks!
> Regards,