Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders

[Tony Rutkowski <[e-mail]>]

As the term is generally used, "policy" includes "a course or principle 
of action adopted or proposed by a government, party, business, or 
individual."  It is a term that is inherently abstruse and without 
boundaries.

It isn't apparent what the purpose of this dialogue is.

-tr

On 7/10/2023 11:11 AM, Rob Sayre wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2023 at 11:20 PM Andrew Alston 
> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>     Rob,
>
>     Speaking wearing no hats.
>
>     I personally find the last sentence of your email below to be
>     contrary to the very ethos of the IETF.  The IETF creates global
>     standards, that have a global impact, and irrespective of where
>     individuals come from, their voices should be given equal weight
>     in our discussions.  I do have concerns personally about singling
>     out policymakers over any other individual or class of individuals
>     since people at the IETF are meant to participate as individuals
>     with no one given more weight than anyone else. However, these
>     concerns with this document have nothing to do with geographic
>     location and where they are from [...]
>
>
> Well, I agree with all of that, and I think that was my point. When we 
> say "policy", we are talking about "governments and laws". The problem 
> with this draft is that it assumes which governments will be listened 
> to. I could pick some incredibly controversial examples here, but I 
> will not.
>
> So, this is not nationalism, but quite the opposite. As others have 
> pointed out, anyone can participate in the IETF.
>
> thanks,
> Rob
>
>