Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?

[Martin Thomson <[e-mail]>]

On Mon, Sep 4, 2023, at 17:34, Eliot Lear wrote:
> I don't mind drafts hanging out somewhere accessible, but can we 
> separate expiry from removal or archiving?

That's more or less the point, yes.

> We already have a problem with internet-drafts being misrepresented as 
> being more than they are.  Right now, at least someone reading the thing 
> can point to the top and say, “Hey! This draft expired!”  In fact, I 
> would love to add a watermark on a draft that is expired; diagonal for 
> HTML and PDF, and more prominent top and bottom for text.

Yeah, and having expiration text has had no real effect on that.  Maybe it would be worse without that text, but I doubt it.

> Also, as ISE I use the expiration as a signal that the authors may have 
> lost interest in their work.  I'm sure WG chairs do the same.

You might infer the same from the fact that the draft was not recently updated.  My experience is that chairs have a far more nuanced understanding of the status of the work in their working groups and tend not to pay attention to any expiration dates.