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Re: [Gendispatch] agenda for gendispatch at ietf116

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Sun, 26 March 2023 05:38 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2023 22:38:04 -0700
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To: Kirsty Paine <kirsty.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] agenda for gendispatch at ietf116
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Hi, noted.

No one said anything to me off-list.

It should be fine to hold the opinion that the idea proposed here should go
nowhere, though.

So, yes, could you explain it? What’s wrong here? I just said this topic is
not worth spending time on, and kind of a rathole. What’s the problem?

sorry for the trouble,
Rob

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 22:18 Kirsty Paine <kirsty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> The messages you have sent to the gendispatch list this morning are
> insulting, dismissive, and disruptive to the WG process as per RFC3934.
> I'll happily explain exactly which parts are not conducive to
> gendispatching Rich's work with you directly, if that's needed. But as
> others have indicated, to you on list and then privately to the chairs,
> this disruption needs to stop; so, per RFC3934, please consider this a
> public warning.
>
> To the WG, please excuse the delay in communicating this; I was on a
> flight, asleep. What a delightful thing to land to...
>
> Kirsty
>
> On Sun, Mar 26, 2023 at 12:29 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Lars,
>>
>> You are a reasonable person and I have read your code.
>>
>> I think the IETF would do well to respect running code a bit more. URLs
>> work, don’t break them. The IESG/IAB thing isn’t all roses, but I am not
>> sure what would be better.
>>
>> Sincerely: “please stop it”,
>> Rob
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 20:17 Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26. Mar 2023, at 11:45, Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > I am all for procedural backflips and tolerance, but this one has
>>> already been declined, right?
>>>
>>> I declined the BOF request only because it came in much too late, and
>>> not for any other reason. I suggested to the proponents to consider taking
>>> the discussion to GENDISPATCH if they wanted a slot at 116.
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>> --
>>
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