Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders

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From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders
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I agree with that sentiment, and I believe that IETF participation should be encouraged across multiple sectors (part of the reason why I’ve given several talks to try and encourage participation in my own region).  That being said – there is a difference between outreach by IETF participants to groups that may be underrepresented and codifying such in a proposed RFC.  One encourages participation, the other could be viewed as elevating one group over another.

Thanks

Andrew




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From: Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
Date: Monday, 10 July 2023 at 15:51
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, gendispatch@ietf.org <gendispatch@ietf.org>
Cc: vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com <vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com>
Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Updated draft: Policy experts are IETF stakeholders

I have deep concern about starting to state explicitly that any group of people are welcome, because the instant you do that, it has implications that some people aren’t welcome.

I think that this is, unfortunately, true, even if we don’t mean it this way. But, I don’t think that doesn’t mean IETFers can’t go out to those groups of people, inform them about us, and encourage activity here.


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