[Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction
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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Joel Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>, "gendispatch@ietf.org" <gendispatch@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction
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> And, to get to the issue more directly, being unable to find and > understand the history of how we reached conclusions (about process, > policy, or technical substance) is distinctly problematic and invites > repeating discussions even more often than we already do. Finding the history is of course very different from understanding the history. I am not implying you do not fully appreciate that. You say it's important for "process, policy, or technical substance." Maybe for the last, but do you have any example where a documented change in one of the first two had a rationale that prevented repeated discussions? It seems to me, all we have is huge collections of original source material. If a potential IAB candidate wants to understand why the IAB has one set of duties and the IETF has another, where should they look? The answer is probably "it is not written down, you just have to attend IETF meetings and learn by osmosis." Of course, archives and historical commentary will not stop people acting in bad faith and clogging up the works, as the earlier controversies around the "drop URI" show.
- [Gendispatch] Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: New … Ron Bonica
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Rob Wilton (rwilton)
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Brian Rosen
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Ron Bonica
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … David Schinazi
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Stephen Farrell
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction David Schinazi
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Joel Halpern
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … Salz, Rich
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction (was: Re: … John Levine
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Brian E Carpenter
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Joel Halpern
- [Gendispatch] Re: Archival Dysfunction Salz, Rich