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Joel Halpern Direct <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> Wed, 03 November 2021 21:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.txt
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Point taken.  I will have to talk to my co-authors as to whether we want 
to completely drop that item, or reword it to say roughly "The rules for 
IETF Patent handling are in RFC ...   Having said that, IETF 
participants should understand that discussions such as about the risks 
of litigation may also carry risks relative to antitrust."

Thank you for the prompt reading.  More feedback is of course welcome.
Yours,
Joel

On 11/3/2021 4:43 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> As well as the formal rules in BCP 79 (RFC 8179) we have informational 
> guidance in RFC 3669, 6701 and 6702. I'm not convinced that the capsule 
> summary in this draft is helpful, and it certainly should not trump BCP 79.
> 
> Regards
>     Brian
> 
> On 04-Nov-21 07:57, Rob Sayre wrote:
>> This draft looks a lot better to me. More precise, and thus less 
>> overbroad.
>>
>> I am not sure about the paragraph concerning patent discussions. It 
>> comes up all the time, and there is even an IPR disclosure process in 
>> the IETF. I'm sure the authors know that, but I found the paragraph 
>> confusing for that reason. Maybe just take it out, or reference 
>> whatever document outlines IPR disclosures.
>>
>> thanks,
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 8:37 AM Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com 
>> <mailto:jmh@joelhalpern.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     This is a significant revision of the draft on IETF antitrust
>>     guidelines.  We tried to address what we heard in the previous 
> feedback,
>>     and tightened the language related to legal issues.
>>
>>     Chairs, if it is possible I would like to present this for 
>> dispatching
>>     at the upcoming session.
>>
>>     Thank you,
>>     Joel
>>
>>
>>     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>     Subject: I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.txt
>>     Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2021 08:15:16 -0700
>>     From: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>     Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>     To: i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org>
>>
>>
>>     A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>     directories.
>>
>>
>>               Title 
>     : Antitrust Guidelines for IETF Particiants
>>               Authors 
>   : Joel M. Halpern
>>                                 Brad Biddle
>>                                 Jay Daley
>>              Filename        : draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.txt
>>              Pages 
>   : 8
>>              Date 
>    : 2021-11-03
>>
>>     Abstract:
>>          This document provides guidance for IETF participants on 
>> compliance
>>          with antitrust laws and how to reduce antitrust risks in 
>> connection
>>          with IETF activities.
>>
>>
>>     The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>>     
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/ 
>> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust/>
>>
>>     There is also an HTML version available at:
>>     
>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.html 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.html> 
>>
>>
>>     A diff from the previous version is available at:
>>     
>> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01 
>> <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01> 
>>
>>
>>
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