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Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Sun, 23 October 2022 21:54 UTC

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On 23/10/2022 22:41, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> 
> Stephen,
> 
>> On 24 Oct 2022, at 4:04 am, Stephen Farrell
>> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>> 
>> The concept of a red-flag as per this draft is a bad idea. It is
>> true some topics are problematic in terms of competition law for
>> some people, but that just does not imply those same topics are
>> problematic for all participants.
> 
> As the draft states, part of the purpose here is to establish
> defences for the IETF as a venue. Establishing a policy is a big part
> of that, and by necessity the policy has to apply to everyone
> equally.

Yes. The policy ought be to avoid the kind of discussions one
ought avoid. (Which is more or less no change from the status
quo ante.) That policy is the same for all.

That does not mean that the set of things that are
problematic to discuss is the same for us all though, which
is what I read the draft as claiming.

S

> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> -- Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
>

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