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Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 04 September 2023 02:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] A gendispatch session at IETF 118?
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On 04-Sep-23 13:22, Joel Halpern wrote:
> I think forcing tombstones would be a very good idea.  Deciding when to
> do so may be more than a little interesting.

Tombstones were nothing but a nuisance when they existed. What's the point?
It just adds cruft to https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/.

Of course, if an author *wants* to submit an I-D saying "This idea has
been abandoned", that would be fine, but I don't think there will be
many takers.

My suggestion (just sent) is simply to make drafts >1 year old invisible
in the default search.

    Brian

> 
> Yours,
> 
> Joel
> 
> On 9/3/2023 9:06 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> On 04/09/2023 01:23, Martin Thomson wrote:
>>
>>> Paul and I just submitted
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomson-gendispatch-no-expiry-01
>>>
>>>
>>>   We've talked about this in the past.  This version contains a
>>> suggested response to the criticism that the last version received.
>>
>> The draft seems fine to me. I'd suggest adding a
>> recommendation that it'd be useful to publish a
>> tombstone version for drafts that are no longer
>> under consideration (at that point in time) as I
>> do think we have a small problem with drafts that
>> are going nowhere, but that not being visible to
>> readers. Not a big deal, but could be worthwhile,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
>>
>

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