Re: [Gendispatch] coders in IETF (was: Diversity and Inclusiveness in the IETF)

Niels ten Oever <> Wed, 24 February 2021 16:00 UTC

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On 24-02-2021 16:43, Eliot Lear wrote:
> Also, first, it would be good to quantify the situation.  In what dimensions are we diverse and in what dimensions are we not?  Second, for each dimension in which we are not, some discussion as to which of the issues raised hits which dimension.  That is, draw out the possible causalities.

I understand the interest in quantification, and it might be useful in some cases, but I would like to underline that not everything is quantifiable in a meaningful way.

See for instance:



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